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Smaug and Sauron[]

I am sorry but Smaug did NOT swear allegiance to Sauron.That is the whole point about Gandalf's involvement in that tale!--Haerangil (talk) 05:53, February 17, 2020 (UTC)


Who are we saying are Smaug's parents? Perhaps they should be the commanders of all dragons during the war of Dwarves and Dragons. Itangast? Moran half valar (talk) 12:17, May 9, 2020 (UTC)

no idea!But i feel it should be red, winged firedrakes... or at least one of them.--Haerangil (talk) 10:36, May 10, 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps his father or grandfather Ruingurth or Uruial. Alex of Star Wars (talk) 14:38, May 25, 2020 (UTC)

maybe.we need to think this well through...--Haerangil (talk) 18:10, May 25, 2020 (UTC)

Sure. I thought it could be one of them because both of them are red Dragons (well, Ruingurth is red-brown but not far from red), both are of the Winged type and both have lairs somewhere in the Grey Mountains. But it's pretty difficult to find a mother. Most female Dragons here are of the Cold-Drakes not of the Fire-Drake subrace to which Smaug belongs.Alex of Star Wars (talk) 10:29, May 26, 2020 (UTC)


If we can't find one, then I say we make one up. A golden/yellowish dragon wouldn't be too far off either. But why do they need to be the same color? I mean Ancalagon was Black and Glaurung Golden. So I don't know if they have to be the same color. For this reason I thought Itangast would be a good pic since he is a firedrake, the greatest level of the Withered Heath, and if we paired him with a winged cold drake, that would solve the issue entirely. Moran half valar (talk) 19:09, May 26, 2020 (UTC)

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