I just went with the story that is involved, I think this orc living over 2300 years is a bit of a stretch. Do we want to say he had an artifact of power that prolonged his life? Or do we want to make up more Orc lords? Moran half valar (talk) 23:00, November 26, 2018 (UTC)

Well, the idea was to connect the bloodline of the Great Goblins to that of the Ashdurbuks via making both descendants of Boldogs, who should he immortal.Question would be: do we wish to make Ogslap a Boldog himself, like Mukarg, or just a longlived descendant? Personally I would prefer the second variant in which Ogslap lived in the second age in Barad-dur and Goblin gate, but not in Angband.But we could connect him to a Demon-orc of Angband via making him a descendant.I don't know... perhaps one could find a name from fanfic for great Goblin of Angband ot Utumno we could use, the ANGBAND roguelike has some named Orcs of whom i'd suppose many would have been Demon-Orcs ...--Haerangil (talk) 02:03, November 27, 2018 (UTC)


ok i'll just keep it as is then. As he would be long lived. But perhaps we should do the same with Brok of Gundabad? Moran half valar (talk) 02:05, November 27, 2018 (UTC)

I'll correct Ogslap from demon-orc to demon-orc descendant. Brok... i think there was a story connected with his death, he was killed i think.I though he was mentioned in Thomas Morwinsky's revised history of Gundabad, but that seems not to be the chase.It is obviously that Brok died before the battle of the last alliance... --Haerangil (talk) 03:02, November 27, 2018 (UTC)
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