So then, isn't it fair to say that she is the Chief of Tulkas' people since the idea for Measse and Makar was dropped? Moran half valar (talk) 16:18, April 28, 2014 (UTC)
Well that could be one idea. but the concept of leaderless or neutral maiar is more interesting isn't it? Since they were ordered to guard the pelori passes as it is stated in the book of lost tales they are somehow vassals of manwe anyway, without being directly part of his folk.Could aslo be an interesting idea to imagine them banned or moved out of aman to look for adventures in middle-earth... that would be an interesting adventue-hook, an immortal Warrior-Chief who is neither good nor evil but adores battle for the sheer fun of war.--Haerangil (talk) 16:25, April 28, 2014 (UTC)
Yeah that sounds better. Do you know who all the Chiefs are of the Valar? I know Olorin is for Irmo, Arien for Vana, Tilion for Orome, Osse for Ulmo, Aluin for Vaire, Gilthrang for Namo, Ilmarie for Varda, and isn't Eonwe for Manwe's people?
- I'm not sure... I think Eon we as Manwe's Cief and Thorondor his herald, Tilion wasn't a Chief but just a Hunter, Amnon should be a better choice for Namo than Gilthrang, who i suppose is rather a demon of the Void.--Haerangil (talk) 16:37, April 28, 2014 (UTC)
I thought Amnon was an Elvish seer who foretold the fall of Gondolin, how would he even be considered? Moran half valar (talk) 16:39, April 28, 2014 (UTC)