I m not too much of a fan of inventing more Skorgs and Mukargs, I already had to do such things to retcon some of MERPS the the PJ movies obvious slips and MECCGs and MEPBMs lack of imagination but i do not wish to reproduce their flaws.The basic idea is that MUKARG was an immortal Maia, but his descendants were just an ever declining bloodline of longlived but mortal Greater Orcs.I suggest we find new names to substitute them for Mukargs and Skorgs sucessors... maybe there is some fanfic where we could look for other Gundabad Kings and try to find believable timelines for these?--Haerangil (talk) 01:58, November 27, 2018 (UTC)

about gundabads rulers... i'd like go incorporate a Brak and Morghash, but i don't know when they ,ight have lived/ruled.--Haerangil (talk) 03:28, November 27, 2018 (UTC)

You did perfect here Haerangil. Thank you. Moran half valar (talk) 04:37, November 27, 2018 (UTC)

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