User talk:Haerangil

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 * thanx! I´ll start my userpage immediately... I´m still thinking of a logo Haerangil

Hi Haerangil

Wenn ich mich recht erinnere, warst Du vor vielen Jahren aktiv Schreibender beim Tolkienboard, einem der damals noch nicht soooo zahlreichen deutschen Tolkien-Foren, dessen Betreiber eine eigene Rolemaster-Version, genannt X-Master, entworfen hatte.

Jedenfalls hätte ich eine Frage zu Deinen ICE-Maps. Hast Du eine Gesamtkarte aus den verschiedenen Teilen der Karten aus dem Nordwesten Mittelerdes zusammengebaut (sieht sehr danach aus)? Falls ja, wäre ich sehr an dieser Gesamtkarte interessiert, denn ich habe selbst auch eine solche erstellt und es würde mich interessieren, wie Du damit verfahren bist, dass beim einfachen aneinanderreihen beträchtliche Lücken entstehen.

Also falls dem allen so sein sollte, würde ich mich über eine Mail von Dir an adi2001@gmx.net freuen.

Gruss, torben
 * Hi! Sorry die große Karte ist leider nicht mein Werk :-( . Ich bin mir nicht mehr Sicher woher ich sie habe aber ich hab vage im Kopf ,daß sie glaube ich mal Irgendwer in der Fanmodules Gruppe reingestellt hatte.--

Wikia Alliances
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Maiarindi
Hey Haerangil, well first of all about the Maiarind, what you say is true, how many generations have to go by before the Maiar blood is worn out? I personally believe that to be considered a Maiarindi, you have to be half maiar, full maiar, or maybe two generations away from Maiar (one eighth maiar). We need to establish what a Maiarindi really is, do you have any ICE books that specifically define this? Also, we should try to flush out the MERP characters and the Maiar pages first, and go at it in a systematic pattern. Don't you think that will make this wiki more efficient? Anyways, let me know your thoughts. Also, what is the Great Ocean Sun fish and can you post details on it?

Best regards,

Fellow GM gamer and roleplayer.
 * Hi there! That fish is mentioned as a mythical creature of the Haradrim, i believe in Pirates of Pelargir, I'll look it up later.I don't know much about the Maiarindi, it's almost all a synthesis of what Tolkien wrote about corporeal Maiar and their offspring and what he wrote about the Valarindi in his early scripts, and hints about Maia-offspring scattered about ICE's work. I don't know if they have specified that in any of their books... I#m still making progress in re-reading the second Edition.If you have any ideas for flushing out the character pages and Ideas about a systematic pattern., let me know...

so far I used the hierarchy: Character-people-Ainur-Maiar.--Haerangil (talk) 07:12, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

Sounds good Haerangil, I'll keep posting what I can find. I have some of the 2nd edition books but not all unfortunately. Also, do you know if ICE/MERPS ever came out with stats for Badger Brock or his kids? Just a question, maybe I overlooked something in the 2nd editions or I am missing a couple of books that might have that information. Lastly, should Beorn the Ancient be classified as a Maiar, Maiarindi, or both? Lyinule, is considered a Maiarind, isn't that the plural form like Maia is to Maiar? So Maiarind would be to Maiarindi? If so, then some Maia and Maiarind could be classified under both categories.

Good job on this wiki thus far Big H.

Best Regards,

Roleplayer.
 * I`ve looked it up... the proper singular Form of Maiarindi should be Maiarindë.Maiar is plural and Maia is singular.--Haerangil (talk) 15:59, June 23, 2013 (UTC)

Pictures
Hey dude, maybe it's rude of me to ask but I'm interested in knowing where you got those cool pictures of the Aukuag and Jelut and Qarsag from. I've been searching for them for a while but can't find them anywhere in the source books/OM magazine articles. 70.193.3.223 13:27, June 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Not sure myself... I had a huge collection of old Illustrations on my old HD... Must have downloaded a set of old MERP illustrations years ago.Or maybe they're from old RM?--Haerangil (talk) 18:39, July 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * The Jelut und Aukuag are quite obviously from MECCG Cards... the Qarsag- I still can't remember.--Haerangil (talk) 18:40, July 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * Where do the maps come from?Fargoniac (talk) 00:46, November 24, 2013 (UTC)Fargoniac
 * Different Sources, but most are from the Fanmodules Yahoo-Group.Someone there created a HUGE amalgation of old MERP Maps and put them all into one big graphic.Most small regional maps i posted are fragments of that amalgation.Some of the coolest maps I've found are from the me-dem project www.me-dem.me.uk/, the most ugly maps were drawn by myself.--Haerangil (talk) 01:00, November 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * What about the maps such as the Central Tûr Betrak Detailed Map? Fargoniac (talk) 01:25, November 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * I can't say where that one is from. Somebody gave me a disc with tons of Stuff on it and I'm unable to say where everything came from.But it may be a scan from some old MERP module, possibly Greater Harad?--Haerangil (talk) 02:18, November 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * Could you upload the amalgamation to the wiki? Fargoniac (talk) 21:31, November 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * I think it's too big as a file.--Haerangil (talk) 17:28, November 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi there, I think I#ve found the maP YOU ASKED FOR on scribd :http://de.scribd.com/doc/58174895/MERP-Map-Northwestern-Middle-Earth-8000x5400 --Haerangil (talk) 18:17, December 17, 2013 (UTC)

Five Ringwraiths on Weathertop
Which five riders were on Weathertop. (Matthew Bowyer Fan (talk) 09:21, August 22, 2013 (UTC))
 * Well at last according to the TCG Cards it were Number 1,34,6 and 7.--Haerangil (talk) 05:00, August 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * So: Ulaire Minya, Ulaire Nelya, Ulaire Cantea, Ulaire Enquea and Ulaire Otsea ?(Matthew Bowyer Fan (talk) 18:05, August 23, 2013 (UTC))
 * Yes I think so, the Decipher TCG names the twiglight Wraiths that way and I think on the MERP Cover depicting the weathertop scerne there are also the Witch-King, Indur and Dwar.--Haerangil (talk) 21:46, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

Nazgûl
Hi Haerangil

Here's Quality Screencaps.

Link: http://screencapped.net/movie/lotr/displayimage.php?album=1&pid=58#top_display_media

Link: http://screencapped.net/movie/lotr/displayimage.php?album=1&pid=59#top_display_media

Link: http://screencapped.net/movie/lotr/displayimage.php?album=1&pid=60#top_display_media

(Matthew Bowyer Fan (talk) 16:53, September 21, 2013 (UTC))


 * Thank you, much appreciated. --Haerangil (talk) 04:57, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

Ringwraith
Which of the nine Nazgûl is this:

Link:http://screencapped.net/movie/lotr/displayimage.php?album=1&pid=2115#top_display_media

Link:http://screencapped.net/movie/lotr/displayimage.php?album=1&pid=2125#top_display_media

Link:http://screencapped.net/movie/lotr/displayimage.php?album=1&pid=2145#top_display_media

(Matthew Bowyer Fan (talk) 14:26, September 23, 2013 (UTC))


 * I think in unfinished tales Tolkien states that this was Khamûl... --Haerangil (talk) 17:41, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

Ringwraiths true undead appearance
Link:http://www.herr-der-ringe-film.de/v3/de/filme/galerie/kreaturen-monster/kreaturen-1_8.php

(Matthew Bowyer Fan (talk) 13:05, September 28, 2013 (UTC))
 * If I only knew which Nazgul is which ...--Haerangil (talk) 13:51, September 28, 2013 (UTC)

Uruk
How is name this Uruk? What happened to him?

Link:http://screencapped.net/movie/lotr/displayimage.php?album=3&pid=12349#top_display_media Link:http://screencapped.net/movie/lotr/thumbnails.php?album=3&page=59 (Matthew Bowyer Fan (talk) 16:44, September 29, 2013 (UTC))
 * Not sure.May be either Mauhur or Lugdush.--Haerangil (talk) 20:02, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

Uruk-Hai
And this is Uruk is Mauhur or Lugdush ?

Link:http://screencapped.net/movie/lotr/displayimage.php?album=4&pid=4811#top_display_media

Link:http://screencapped.net/movie/lotr/thumbnails.php?album=4&page=10

Link:http://screencapped.net/movie/lotr/displayimage.php?album=4&pid=4817#top_display_media

(Matthew Bowyer Fan (talk) 15:44, September 30, 2013 (UTC))
 * the Cardgame says it's Mauhúr.--Haerangil (talk) 14:36, October 2, 2013 (UTC)

Nazguls as kings of men
Hi Haerangil there is all nine nazguls as kings of men from Lord of the Rings Fellowship of the Ring.Photo is not from Film but from filming.

Link:https://picasaweb.google.com/102444060058418821034/LOTRMoviesCharactersActorsPrologueRingbearers#5506121910014535938

(Matthew Bowyer Fan (talk) 18:18, December 15, 2013 (UTC))


 * Thanks ! Do you also have pics of the seven Dwarven-Kings?--Haerangil (talk) 03:03, January 3, 2014 (UTC)

Hello!
Hello Haerangil,

I love what this wiki is attempting to do - organize both canon and non-canon (primarily non-canon) information regarding Tolkien's universe onto a single wiki.

Being well-versed in the canon of Tolkien, it's wonderful to discover non-canon explanations and/or expansions in areas where canon did not explain (i.e. - various characters, cultures, lands, races, etc.). It's all extremely fascinating.

As you've probably noticed, I've made various edits to the wiki (a lot of them regarding appearance - spacing, grammar, spelling, etc.). I have extensive experience in editing and administering two other wikis, and I'd like to help out in any way I can with regards to this wiki, too (that is, if you'd like assistance).

Hope all is well!

FMJ87 (talk) 01:23, January 3, 2014 (UTC)FMJ87


 * I wish to thank you for the many corrections and editions you made... you're welcome to join our work!--Haerangil (talk) 02:59, January 3, 2014 (UTC)

Question
Is this a roleplaying wiki?
 * To a large part -Yes! So far I guess it's 90% about Middle-Earth Roleplaying (MERP), but technically it's also open to other non-canon Publications about Middle-Earth like Video Games, Fan-Fiction or Table-top.--Haerangil (talk) 11:20, January 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh.
 * The Mordor Archer (talk) 21:29, January 25, 2014 (UTC)

Hi there!

Nice edit to my creation of information on Meachelburg. Your edit is far more consistent with the geopolitical creation of the area than my own. I named it according to the map created by ICE materials. I did want to point out that your tag name for the town, and the map name for the town, do not match.

All three names could be explained by linguistic shift, though a line stating such could explain to the reader the differences in the names.

GammaGM (talk) 23:51, February 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * I#m Sorry... The article already existed under the different tag...

Maethelburg was the correct term, I took the infos from the MERP Campaign -Atlas... Machelburg must be a misread.Mathlaburg is an alternbative form that appears in the Inland Sea module and Methelburg should be the correct spelling as Tolkien most often changed anglo-saxon Æ into E instead of ae (for example Elfwine instead of Aelfwine). I#m not sure which form to use... probably Maethelburg would be the best term as it is the form used in the ICE Books, although Methelburg would be more consistant with Tolkien's forms of Rohirric.--Haerangil (talk) 20:15, February 3, 2014 (UTC)

Seven Dwarf Lords
Sorry For Late Answer. I do not own this photos. All rights are of the copyright owner.

Link:https://picasaweb.google.com/102444060058418821034/LOTRMoviesCharactersActorsPrologueRingbearers#5506119617790686658 Link:https://picasaweb.google.com/102444060058418821034/LOTRMoviesCharactersActorsPrologueRingbearers#5506119704004545458 Link:https://picasaweb.google.com/102444060058418821034/LOTRMoviesCharactersActorsPrologueRingbearers#5506119718203880626 Link:https://picasaweb.google.com/102444060058418821034/LOTRMoviesCharactersActorsPrologueRingbearers#5506119807880833794 Link:https://picasaweb.google.com/102444060058418821034/LOTRMoviesCharactersActorsPrologueRingbearers#5506119829754782034 Link:https://picasaweb.google.com/102444060058418821034/LOTRMoviesCharactersActorsPrologueRingbearers#5506119844649225874 Link:https://picasaweb.google.com/102444060058418821034/LOTRMoviesCharactersActorsPrologueRingbearers#5506119849289687298 Link:https://picasaweb.google.com/102444060058418821034/LOTRMoviesCharactersActorsPrologueRingbearers#5506119893998028690 (Matthew Bowyer Fan (talk) 19:38, February 22, 2014 (UTC))
 * Thank you! too bad there are no better pictures of Malin, Darsha and Riimukäsi...--Haerangil (talk) 17:16, May 9, 2014 (UTC)

Question on maps
Hi There!

Thx for having created this wonderful wiki, which I use everyday.

I have a question. In the webpage of the High-Pass (http://merp.wikia.com/wiki/High-Pass) I see two images. The second one comes from the ICE module, "The Goblin Gate". But the first one? I recognize the most recent ICE style of fonts, but do not identify as coming from any module (and I have all of them!).

Thank you.

---

Jjjustel
 * I'm sorry but I can't give sources for many of my pics, because they're from a collection somebody gave me on an old CD and I don't know where he has them from.I know that many are from old MERP books and a few are probably from Rolemaster books.The Map you aks about might be from a Tolkien/ME Quest Book I guess, but I#m not sure about it.--Haerangil (talk) 11:30, May 9, 2014 (UTC)

Forums
Hey Haerangil, is there a forum website that answers questions about ICE/MERP characters? Also have you found anything else on Agonar's staff? That is all I need besides who bore the Amulet of True Channels. Wasn't it that Hermit in the Utter South who had a construct working for him? Moran half valar (talk) 17:46, May 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry I don't know.... but of course you could try at merp.com or at the fanmodules yahoo-Group.--Haerangil (talk) 18:06, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

Fourth Age Factions
Hey Haerangil, I would be lying if I stated that I knew a lot about the Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, and Seventh ages. I don't have those books apparently--however, I am comfortable with the other faction being like an Evil Spartan faction, I think that fits! Also, Alatar and Pallando's factions should be flushed out in the Fourth Age, and Durin VII should have a big force too, along with Gimli's kingdom perhaps... Moran half valar (talk) 17:48, July 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * The mentioned factions are from the FO 1000 scenario, a long time after Gimli's Kingdom and probably after Durin VII and Alarar & Pallando.--Haerangil (talk) 09:22, July 28, 2014 (UTC)

A Question
Are there any books/resources on MERP languages still being published?

Fargoniac (talk) 02:04, December 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi there! No, all official MERP Publications have been out of print for decades, however there's a small but quite dedicated fan community who kep on working on exploring Middle-Earth and much of their work is based on MERP.I`ve already added a few of the newer developements under languages, and I had to do quite some retcon work.For example check out Fanmodules on Yahoo, Lindefirion, Guild Companion, Other Minds or Hall of Fire on the web.Some work has also been published on websites as such as scribd...--Haerangil (talk) 14:43, December 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * Which fan-works specifically cover languages?Fargoniac (talk) 21:57, December 18, 2014 (UTC)

I As far as I know Lindefirion has an extended Page about Languages and Cultures and the Fan Modules Group has also published some documents about Language. A great article about Nandorin, including a broad wordlist and guidelines to grammer was published by the Other Hands Magazine Issue #28.--Haerangil (talk) 11:02, December 19, 2014 (UTC)

Edits
Hi! Thanks for the welcome! I'm glad to be here! I hope you like the edits I make! SuperGrantZilla (talk) 23:28, January 1, 2015 (UTC)

So, what did you think of the edit for the Easterling language page so far?SuperGrantZilla (talk) 23:35, January 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * They're a welcome contribution.--Haerangil (talk) 11:34, January 2, 2015 (UTC)


 * I hope some of my edits weren't too much of a bother! I got a little enthusiastic and willing to show off! SuperGrantZilla (talk) 07:34, January 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * Not at all. So far I felt that the language section of this Wiki was a bit underrepresentated in contrast to scenarios, Places or Characters.--Haerangil (talk) 09:56, January 3, 2015 (UTC)

Hi! could you tell me what is the place were the Ruler of Khand lives?
 * Good Question. The BfME mentions a "Vangaris" as King of Khand, but according to their scenario there were several Kings, not just one.Semewhere they also mention a Keiseimu, though it's not sure if He's a King.Fanfic mentions a Yumruk and an Arkish, and an Ûvatha IX who was supposedly murdered by Yumruk.Arkish was supposed to have lived around 2980 TA, Yumruk was a vassal of Margoz of Rhun about the time of the WoTR, ... I guess there were several Kings and some internal strife that involved Vangaris, Yumruk and Uvatha IX... The old Capital was Ammu Khand, later it was Laorki... but that was in the 16th century... City names in khand might have changed after one and a half century... At least that Vanragis rules from a capital called ankruz, but it might have been a lesser regional capital of Surak-Khand too...--Haerangil (talk) 20:05, January 10, 2015 (UTC)

Haerangil, I have a question... that Orcs and Uruks from the battle of pelennor fields (Lufthak, Gartor, Argdush and the other ones) are fanom? Also the Moria Goblins called Drisnak, Nushdrak, Huzghash, Gharsh and the others are fanom? Because a user called Spenpiano from Lord of the Rings Wiki thought that they were real and created those pages there... I want to know if they are fanom or are from some game.
 * Well, Drisnak, Gharsh, Yuithrech, Grimbosh, Gazmog etc. are from Interplay's Lord of The Rings Game I&II, Luftak, Gartor and Argdush are minor Captains from LOTR SBG Scenarios, some other Characters are from LOTRO, Borgthaur, Flurg and Gurbash are Quest Game, Euog, Baugur and Doeth are MECCG and Grishlug,Ugnar, Mog, Lughur, and Radluk are Lotr RPG. So they are all non-canon but not Fanon per se.The Only fanon characters I added were Urzog, Bolingul, Guritz, Dror, Gordmul, Gorkin, Ogslap and Maul, though i didn't create them... they are from fanfic I´ve found on the WEB or MODS.I see it's important to add references for all characters to identify where they are from. I'm working on that but it'll take some time concerning the sheer mass of Characters this Wiki already covers.-Haerangil (talk) 06:04, February 13, 2015 (UTC)

''Mae govannen mellon! Ni Elaran, end Lymrandir estant. Ni "Tolkienor" 'adron ah ieston echadi delias talven or MERP. ''"Well met friend! I'm Star-King, also called Shadow-Pilgrim. I'm a fellow Tolkienist and I wish to shape a game based on MERP."

I was wondering if I could somehow contact you for your opinion on it. I'm trying to combine The New Shadow and Dagor Dagorath for a forum boards game with FRP elements. It's quite a big project for me. I hope you can see this.

Novaer! "Farewell!" Lymrandir (talk) 01:53, April 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, why not... I´ve quit Roleplaying quite some years ago and now i`m more dedicated to preserve the old ICE/MERP Backgrounds and trying to keep some kind of continuity with the other Versions of ME. But why not, if i find time...--Haerangil (talk) 13:53, April 1, 2015 (UTC)

Great! Alright then, is there a way that I can contact you without using this confusing page? We can use emails if you would prefer? I will include a link to my tumblr account for both of our anonymities' sake (and don't worry, I'm not one of those strange gif lovers). As far as I know, its "ask system" allows anyone to write to the blog owner without registration. You can click here.

Happy Easter
Hope you are enjoying your time Haerangil. Take it easy and thanks for the continuing edits over the years!

Sincerely,

Moran half valar (talk) 20:36, April 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks alot! Same to you, Regards H. --Haerangil (talk) 12:15, April 6, 2015 (UTC)

Senator Kratti, Prince Ferris of Hathor, & Unknown individual raised by a Wizard
Hey Haerangil, do you have any information about the following characters listed above? Would you be opposed to writing their hypothetical stats and items? Thanks and let me know if you are against this, if they are listed in any books, please let me know. Thanks. Moran half valar (talk) 03:39, April 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * I just found those chars on the web... probably they're from some fanfic or forum RPG game.Don't have any more info than what i found on

http://www.geocities.ws/ldg5066/index-2.html They seemingly weren't too serious... taking pics of brad pitt for Prince Ferris and calling the Hathorians "cool surfer Boys".But maybe inspiring though.--Haerangil (talk) 12:22, April 15, 2015 (UTC)

This was a really odd site, so the names are just made up without any ICE/MERP source. Okay, thanks. Moran half valar (talk) 15:48, April 15, 2015 (UTC)

Hey Haerangil, I think I am going to flush out Moran's companions, I wanted to run the sales pitch by you first though. I think Droggo should not be offliated with any of the companions listed in the Ardor book, I feel that Senator Kratti, Prince Ferris, Boah Agonar, and Princess Eldanar all work for the profiles of the Kirani Noble/Senator, Prince of Hathor, Son of other Ardor members, and Princess of Taaliraan. But who should be the one that is adopted and raised by a murdered mage? I was thinking that Sacha could actually fit this profile. Being a Maia and using her in the campaign, it would make sense that she would be an adoptive child of Hathor (God) and Anorel. If not, then who would you say?

Lastly, I have done much research on Droggo's companions and I can't think of anyone that would have gone along with him to Ardor except Naug II and Ayitula. But that is because they were travelling back to the east anyways, Most likely Wonir and Boah had met Droggo during the events of the Trollshaws and helped him set up in the swamps of Ganesh. Boah Agonar is listed multiple times thoughout ICE/MERP series, and in Ardor he is listed with Camring and Taurclax--so not only was he spying on the whereabouts of Sauron and Mordor, but he was also spying on Ardor for the Guild of Elements.

So in conclusion, is there anyone that you can think of that represented the adoptive person raised by a wizard? I am inclined to put down Sacha. As for the final member--I would like to include Naug II, but I don't know if he actually travelled down there--I know eventually he has to get back to Rurrik. But I think he or Ayitula would have been there, maybe Ayitula as a backup member, given that she was exiled from her home in the first place.

Let me know your thoughts and gripes. If you have any ideas, please let me know.

Sincerely,

Moran half valar (talk) 18:58, April 20, 2015 (UTC)


 * I think a Dwarf would fit pretty well.Sacha, I´m not sure about another Maia character... personally I´d place her in the Undying lands.--Haerangil (talk) 18:15, April 21, 2015 (UTC)

My Message
Did you read my above message? And awesome job on the banners! Where did you find all of them? Moran half valar (talk) 15:47, April 21, 2015 (UTC)


 * That wasn't me... thanks to user Enanoakd.--Haerangil (talk) 18:16, April 21, 2015 (UTC)

All Caught Up
I think you and I are all caught up on messages. I think a Dwarf could not be adopted by an Elvish wizard--now a Maiar/Fairy, Elf, Half-Elf, or Human is plausible--could Trevor Arain or Miraj be the adoptive child? If you don't know, I think I'll just go with Sacha given that Hathor and Anorel were both fire spirits and there are plenty of fairy creatures running around in the early Third Age anyways.

The only Dwarf that may have went on the journey with Droggo and Moran would have to be Naug II, but I don't know if you have any sources or any footnotes that justify him being in or going to Ardor. Moran half valar (talk) 19:03, April 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Maybe Boah could have been the adopted Child? I Naug was a Stonefoot... I think a Blacklock would fit better to the utter south, on the other hands The two far-eastern houses were had strong ties. Naug could well have joined a band of Barkashad active in the Tur betark.--Haerangil (talk) 19:32, April 21, 2015 (UTC)


 * No, Boah fits more under Yavakamba and Featur I child, how else could he have infiltrated Camring and Taurclax unless he had the blessings of the Council? And Yavakamba being the on the Council and secretly siding with Featur I and the Guild makes him a perfect fit. Plus, since he goes with Droggo to the trollshaws and the north--it makes sense as he is covering up as a servant to Sauron as well. Which is how he probably met Droggo and Wonir in the first place. Moran half valar (talk) 21:23, April 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Just that he probably didn't meet Droggo in the north, since the nimblefingers were said to be a clan of wild hobbits from the south... and droggo is said to have been raised in geshaan.So who else could it be? Maybe Droggo, Kratti or Aranlys? --Haerangil (talk) 05:50, April 22, 2015 (UTC)


 * Okay, I'll list Droggo as the one being raised by a mage to the South. I'll keep Sacha in as well just for female characters, and I guess any of Droggo's companions then (preferably Naug and Ayitula could have worked with him in the South as well. Also, do you have any stats, references, links to Kratti? Moran half valar (talk) 16:20, April 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * No.--Haerangil (talk) 16:44, April 22, 2015 (UTC)


 * You know, maybe we'll list him as the other bearer of the Amulet of True Channels. I mean, being a Senator, he would have more holy/cleric like abilities...right? Or be of more of a magic character type, since Senators don't do much...I take back what I said about holy/clerics. Pardon me for my foolishness! Moran half valar (talk) 16:59, April 22, 2015 (UTC)

Organization
Hey Haerangil, is there any way for you to organize some of the characters in the First, Second, and Third age better? Like list of Orcs of the First Age, and all the names are under there, list of men, and all the First age men are under there--kinda like Tolkien Gateway or LOTR wiki? I think this would be easier to navigate through. Not just for myself, but for others reading as well. Moran half valar (talk) 20:35, June 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * probably, but that would take some time--Haerangil (talk) 11:01, June 20, 2015 (UTC)

Please check Uslak. I was added better photo.
 * Hi ! Yes, that pic is way better.Thank you... --Haerangil (talk) 21:23, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

Rules for new members?
Hi Haerangil,

Thanks for the welcome. As I use this wiki regularly, I feel I should contribute somehow. Is there a set of rules I should know about? Specifically, I am currently working on fleshing out the Sarn Settlements, and am using a lot of the original source work from MERP and T Morwinsky as the foundation to lay my own original stuff on top of. Is this acceptable, or will I be breaking a written (or unwritten) rule of this wiki?

Thanks in advance,

1way2rock (talk) 10:57, March 20, 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi There! Well no official rules so far, only communication between the different contributors. I'd say there's a somewhat unofficial hierarchy by canon... LotR, Hobbit and Silmarillion first, then HoME, then MERP, then everything else... on and off I had to retcon something or change an article in one way or another to make it fit better into the picture... took some efforts to try to harmonize stuff from MERP with Lotr Tabletop and Lotro for example... but after all... it's still the same world.So if you want to flesh out things... I guess you're free to do whatever you want as long as you try to look after the unofficial canon hierarchy (Legendarium first).--Haerangil (talk) 14:38, March 20, 2016 (UTC)

Langurian Kyn
Hi there! First of all, thanks for correct my gramatical and ortographic typos. English is not my native tongue so I tend to have mistakes.

Second, I saw you edited the info I added about the Langur tribe. For the proximity of name I thought they could be from the land of Y-Lústurangsur, but you changed it to Langurian Kyn. Seems ok for me (I actually don't know from where the Langur came from). My question is where would be that land on the traditional MERP map?

Thanks in advance!

Enanoakd (talk) 17:41, April 19, 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem.English is only my second language and I too, still make a lot of mistakes...
 * the langurian Kyn... I remember to have read that name in some

MERP or RM book, possibly it was mentioned in some line about an obscure artifact in Treasures of ME or some NPC short description. I don't know if it was ever mentioned again or if it was established where that land should be located.Personally i feel the name sounds much like Kykurian Kyn and possibly is a neighbouring region. It would also seem allright if you place langurian kyn right in the middle between Kukurian kyn and Lusturangsur, as you are right with the similarity to the latter name..--Haerangil (talk) 21:52, April 19, 2016 (UTC)




 * Great! I just added the page. If you think there's something to change, just edit it, and if so, I'll change the image. Thanks!


 * Enanoakd (talk) 13:28, April 25, 2016 (UTC)

Calmiriel
Check it out! I think you're gonna love it!--Spenpiano (talk) 18:23, June 16, 2016 (UTC)

Upload
I've already uploaded a few more pictures that I think you'll like. Let me know if you anything.--Spenpiano (talk) 21:02, June 16, 2016 (UTC)

Middle-earth Wikis
Mae Govannen!

I'm an Administrator (but not a Wiki long-timer like you) over from the Lord of the Rings Wiki, and I'm here to let you know that your Wiki has become a part of the Wikia-grouping "Middle-earth Wikis", of which there are five - meaning that you, Haerangil the Admin, may add this new template to the bottom of the homepage.

Have a great week, and do keep up the amazing amount of work you got going around here. ' HiddenVale -   TalkPage ' 19:09, July 25, 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi there! Thanks for your support!--Haerangil (talk) 23:56, July 25, 2016 (UTC)

You're welcome :)

Were you not planning on adding the template to the Main page? ' HiddenVale -   TalkPage ' 03:07, July 28, 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes.I´m not good at this template thing so it took me some while to figure out how...--Haerangil (talk) 05:41, July 28, 2016 (UTC)

Dagorwaith Project
Hi there ... I am astonished by the depth of Your wiki... it is absolutely wonderful. I came across a project called Dagorwaith and I am trying to revive the project.

I was wonderring if you could possibly help to promote it

TheSlovakPatriot (talk) 14:34, August 18, 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't know if I can. I'm pretty busy at keeping the MERP Wiki Project alive, but I´ll help if i can. regards, Haerangil.--Haerangil (talk) 18:35, August 18, 2016 (UTC)


 * Alright thats fine...I was also wonderring if you have any knowledge of the counties map of Lamedon and Anfalas (as I found something for Anórien, Ithilien, Lebennin and Belfalas). It would help me very much
 * TheSlovakPatriot (talk) 20:42, August 20, 2016 (UTC)
 * Well there are maps of both I used to illustrate the articles for both regions.They are taken from Pete Fenlon's very detailed maps for the MERP RPG.--Haerangil (talk) 20:56, August 20, 2016 (UTC)

Yahoo Fanmodules Question
Haerangil,

First off, let me say that this is an amazing wiki you've put together here.

I've been looking into the eastern peoples of middle earth and it seems as though a lot of the sources are the yahoo fanmodules.

Do you know if the yahoo group still active? Or where I could access their modules?

Thank you!

Lydsudj (talk) 16:27, November 6, 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi there! I believe the Group is still active and you can find their documents on their site https://beta.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/fan-modules/info .Cheers Haerangil --Haerangil (talk)


 * Can people without a Yahoo account join the group? I have a Google email, so I don't know if I can join. Fargoniac (talk) 22:34, December 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't know for sure.To be honest it#s been quite a while that I've been active on the Fanmodules Group..--Haerangil (talk) 02:33, December 27, 2016 (UTC)

Osgiliath Places of Note
Hi, could there be created some areas of Osgiliath? For example like: Forum of Turambar, Gardens of Beleganor, Palatium etc. ? I know nothing about them yet I would like read some info and image if there's. Cheers! --Matthew Bowyer Fan (talk) 21:53, December 10, 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi there! I remember that most of these places were found either in LOTRO or in the MERP Sourcebooks for Southern Gondor.Right now I don't have the time to add more precise descriptions of the mentioned places, but I'll add them as soon as i can.--Haerangil (talk) 22:48, December 12, 2016 (UTC)

Ok, Thanks. --Matthew Bowyer Fan (talk) 20:36, December 17, 2016 (UTC)

Which Nazgûl
Hi, I have q:

Which Nazgûl is this one:

Link:http://caps.pictures/200/2-lotr-two-towers/full/lotr2-movie-screencaps.com-23840.jpg

--Matthew Bowyer Fan (talk) 07:59, January 25, 2017 (UTC)
 * Good question. As it is a non-book scene there#s hardly any evidence who it could have been.If we follow MERP it could have been Hoarmurath, who briefly had returned to search for the ring while the Witch-king attacked Minas Tirith, or it could have been Akhorahil who was one of the commanders later at the Pelennor fields - so he would have been near Osgiliath, but it also could have been Indur, who was at Osgiliath too and oversaw the Southron-Mumakil groups.--Haerangil (talk) 20:01, January 26, 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, so much for answer.

And this?

Link:http://caps.pictures/200/2-lotr-two-towers/full/lotr2-movie-screencaps.com-5779.jpg

--Matthew Bowyer Fan (talk) 21:08, January 26, 2017 (UTC)

--Again not answer from the Books. Following MERP it could be Hoarmurath, who briefly had returned to search for the ring.Akhorahil and Indur were busy at Osgiliath or Minas Morgul, the others were at Barad-Dûr at the time. But again, this is only MERP, not Tolkien, so it's just conjecture.--Haerangil (talk) 23:33, January 29, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, if we follow MERP, who are these?

Link:http://caps.pictures/200/1-lotr-fellowship/full/lotr1-movie-screencaps.com-8550.jpg


 * It couldn't be Khamûl, so decipher must be wrong.

Link:http://caps.pictures/200/1-lotr-fellowship/full/lotr1-movie-screencaps.com-8549.jpg


 * It couldn't be Adûnaphel, so again decipher is wrong.

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/merp/images/8/84/Hoarmurath2.jpg/revision/20160531112118


 * It couldn't be Hôarmûrath so once more, decipher is wrong.

I have in computer gallery where I'm saving Nazgûls so I wonder.


 * Why couldn't it be Hoarmurath, Adunaphel or Khamûl? They would have been there at Weathertop.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-J8Ii4mO6uuQ/Ty68MmNwXYI/AAAAAAAAA8I/0VZwmAZBzhg/s1600/MERP2eCover.jpg This Illustration by Angus McBride definitely intends the Witch-king and Indûr.--Haerangil (talk) 20:34, January 30, 2017 (UTC)

I thought that if we follow MERP: Dwar, the Witch-King, Akhorahil, Indur and Ren attacked the Company on Weathertop. --Matthew Bowyer Fan (talk) 14:54, January 31, 2017 (UTC)
 * Between the Attack on Crickhollow and Frodo at the Weathertop there were six days.Well at waethertop there were five Nazgul, one of them the Witch-king.Khamûl, Adûnaphel, Hoarmurath and Indur could quite be possibilities.--Haerangil (talk) 19:18, January 31, 2017 (UTC)

Here is something for you if you don't have it yet.

Link:http://media.moddb.com/images/members/1/762/761504/hobbitchronicles6_spread.jpg

--Matthew Bowyer Fan (talk) 08:42, February 2, 2017 (UTC)


 * Taqnx a lot!--Haerangil (talk) 17:54, February 2, 2017 (UTC)

Dearest Apology
Hello, its been a year since I've waited to deeply apologize for the errors and mistakes that happened. I don't wish to make excuses, but I what I want is some help.--Spenpiano (talk) 13:45, June 26, 2017 (UTC)

Check Please
Hi again, is it okay if you can check the pages I created. I just want to know if I did them right. If I missed something, let me know. I be glad to fix it.--Spenpiano (talk) 04:58, June 29, 2017 (UTC)
 * Manlow Clady
 * Etherly Cobble
 * Tuggle Cooper
 * Theodwine Emnetsun
 * Precious Gorbuck
 * Bert Greenshins
 * Eustace Grubb
 * Tully Hawkswell
 * Arteveld Holman
 * Dahlia North-Took
 * Falco North-Took
 * Renadil Pirasin
 * Babbin Quillfoyle
 * Feanan Redwing
 * Ordelred Took
 * Svinder Tossel

And more:
 * Arvoreg
 * Faramond Baggins
 * Inigo Baggins
 * Benrodir
 * Orlando Brandybuck
 * Prospero Brandybuck
 * Orlando Burrows
 * Cosimo Chubb
 * Garathon
 * Orlando Grubb
 * Inigo Grubb-Took
 * Heorulf
 * Cosimo Hornblower
 * Ingrim
 * Wag Muncy
 * Rothinel
 * Tobias Smygrave
 * Drogo Took
 * Faramond Took
 * Melba Took
 * Mungo Took
 * Prospero Took
 * Uffo Took


 * It's okay, i really didn't like the decision but after many times i contacted you and had to rework your articles i felt i had little choice. So if you wish to rework your articles and posts you of course can do that. I just honestly ask you to base your articles on honest research and not just put up stubs with movie stills and little content or articles which cite Tolkien or secondary work as references but which have lotle or nothing to do with the subject.Such sort of contribution just wastes my small resources of time i#d like I#d rather to invest otherwise by making this wikia better.--Haerangil (talk) 22:38, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

Thank you :)

Source and Reference Check

 * I checked also, and I've been concentrating on what I can find. Its the reason why I always ask for help.--Spenpiano (talk) 23:08, July 1, 2017 (UTC)
 * That's why i created the characters section. When i'm looking for references for a specific Character I use the Wiki search, if the name if found i see which works might contain information about the character, then i take the book and look after it.It usually works... for example i find Leofric in Lord of the Rings CCG Characters, Lord of the Rings Online Characters, Lord of the Rings Trilogy Characters, and MERP Characters. In MERP Chatracters i find the name mentioned in Riders of Rohan... then i take the books/works and read and compare, then i write an article and add references.I don't invent fanfic characters just as an excuse to add a nice picture and a short stub that is of little use for roleplayers who may wish to use this Wikia for improvisng a session.--Haerangil (talk) 00:02, July 2, 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, I think I'm starting to get the picture, but I still have a puzzled side.--Spenpiano (talk) 00:06, July 2, 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your help :)--Spenpiano (talk) 00:38, July 2, 2017 (UTC)
 * No problem. I acknowledge you're making progress and your contributions are improving.--Haerangil (talk) 20:34, July 2, 2017 (UTC)

Swanhild
I think I like the name Swanhild. Seems to be perfect name.--Spenpiano (talk) 23:35, July 1, 2017 (UTC)

New Pages
Check out the new pages I made. Hope I did it right. Let me know if there are any errors. :)--Spenpiano (talk) 01:22, July 4, 2017 (UTC)

Míriel of the Woodland Realm
Check out this image for Míriel of the Woodland Realm. I think you'll like it. :)--Spenpiano (talk) 18:08, July 4, 2017 (UTC)

New Pages

 * Please check Vigo Took and Olo Bolger.

Artan the fair
I found an image that can be perfect for the page Artan.

Recreated
Hi Haerangil, I just want to tell you that I recreated the page Olo Bolger. Hoping if you can check and see if I did this right. I just want to be 100% sure. Let me know.--Spenpiano (talk) 03:49, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

Also there's more. Please check--Spenpiano (talk) 18:50, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

Here are the list of pages that I hope for you to check and see if I did right:
 * Rhimlath
 * Rhimdir
 * Rhimbron
 * Marculf
 * Ilmandur
 * Ildramir
 * Máraher
 * Lughorn
 * Inram the Tall
 * Herelaf
 * Galdrin
 * Guthrond
 * Ellonel
 * Dirgon
 * Duilas
 * Carandrian
 * Falborn
 * Elias Tobiasson
 * Derning
 * Cyneferth
 * Baragorn
 * Arami
 * Faragon
 * Aurvandil
 * Orlando Grubb
 * Olo Bolger

Let me know anytime. :)--Spenpiano (talk) 04:55, July 6, 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry but it has come to a point where i will delete articles that are false, redundant or lack content without further discussion.--Haerangil (talk) 23:31, July 9, 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the previous message. Even though, when these names are seen in pages, such as Longbottom, are they fanfic or are the sources somewhere online? That's what puzzles me the most.--Spenpiano (talk) 16:48, July 11, 2017 (UTC)

LOTRO
I added new pages of characters from The Lord of the Rings Online. Hoping you can see.--Spenpiano (talk) 01:41, July 13, 2017 (UTC)

New Images

 * Hi Haerangil, I created a new plage called Kemendur of Gondor. Please double check and make sure I did perfect. I also re-added some new images to previous pages.--Spenpiano (talk) 03:38, November 2, 2017 (UTC)