User talk:Haerangil

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 * thanx! I´ll start my userpage immediately... I´m still thinking of a logo Haerangil

Hi Haerangil

Wenn ich mich recht erinnere, warst Du vor vielen Jahren aktiv Schreibender beim Tolkienboard, einem der damals noch nicht soooo zahlreichen deutschen Tolkien-Foren, dessen Betreiber eine eigene Rolemaster-Version, genannt X-Master, entworfen hatte.

Jedenfalls hätte ich eine Frage zu Deinen ICE-Maps. Hast Du eine Gesamtkarte aus den verschiedenen Teilen der Karten aus dem Nordwesten Mittelerdes zusammengebaut (sieht sehr danach aus)? Falls ja, wäre ich sehr an dieser Gesamtkarte interessiert, denn ich habe selbst auch eine solche erstellt und es würde mich interessieren, wie Du damit verfahren bist, dass beim einfachen aneinanderreihen beträchtliche Lücken entstehen.

Also falls dem allen so sein sollte, würde ich mich über eine Mail von Dir an adi2001@gmx.net freuen.

Gruss, torben
 * Hi! Sorry die große Karte ist leider nicht mein Werk :-( . Ich bin mir nicht mehr Sicher woher ich sie habe aber ich hab vage im Kopf ,daß sie glaube ich mal Irgendwer in der Fanmodules Gruppe reingestellt hatte.--

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Maiarindi
Hey Haerangil, well first of all about the Maiarind, what you say is true, how many generations have to go by before the Maiar blood is worn out? I personally believe that to be considered a Maiarindi, you have to be half maiar, full maiar, or maybe two generations away from Maiar (one eighth maiar). We need to establish what a Maiarindi really is, do you have any ICE books that specifically define this? Also, we should try to flush out the MERP characters and the Maiar pages first, and go at it in a systematic pattern. Don't you think that will make this wiki more efficient? Anyways, let me know your thoughts. Also, what is the Great Ocean Sun fish and can you post details on it?

Best regards,

Fellow GM gamer and roleplayer.
 * Hi there! That fish is mentioned as a mythical creature of the Haradrim, i believe in Pirates of Pelargir, I'll look it up later.I don't know much about the Maiarindi, it's almost all a synthesis of what Tolkien wrote about corporeal Maiar and their offspring and what he wrote about the Valarindi in his early scripts, and hints about Maia-offspring scattered about ICE's work. I don't know if they have specified that in any of their books... I#m still making progress in re-reading the second Edition.If you have any ideas for flushing out the character pages and Ideas about a systematic pattern., let me know...

so far I used the hierarchy: Character-people-Ainur-Maiar.--Haerangil (talk) 07:12, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

Sounds good Haerangil, I'll keep posting what I can find. I have some of the 2nd edition books but not all unfortunately. Also, do you know if ICE/MERPS ever came out with stats for Badger Brock or his kids? Just a question, maybe I overlooked something in the 2nd editions or I am missing a couple of books that might have that information. Lastly, should Beorn the Ancient be classified as a Maiar, Maiarindi, or both? Lyinule, is considered a Maiarind, isn't that the plural form like Maia is to Maiar? So Maiarind would be to Maiarindi? If so, then some Maia and Maiarind could be classified under both categories.

Good job on this wiki thus far Big H.

Best Regards,

Roleplayer.
 * I`ve looked it up... the proper singular Form of Maiarindi should be Maiarindë.Maiar is plural and Maia is singular.--Haerangil (talk) 15:59, June 23, 2013 (UTC)

Pictures
Hey dude, maybe it's rude of me to ask but I'm interested in knowing where you got those cool pictures of the Aukuag and Jelut and Qarsag from. I've been searching for them for a while but can't find them anywhere in the source books/OM magazine articles. 70.193.3.223 13:27, June 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Not sure myself... I had a huge collection of old Illustrations on my old HD... Must have downloaded a set of old MERP illustrations years ago.Or maybe they're from old RM?--Haerangil (talk) 18:39, July 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * The Jelut und Aukuag are quite obviously from MECCG Cards... the Qarsag- I still can't remember.--Haerangil (talk) 18:40, July 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * Where do the maps come from?Fargoniac (talk) 00:46, November 24, 2013 (UTC)Fargoniac
 * Different Sources, but most are from the Fanmodules Yahoo-Group.Someone there created a HUGE amalgation of old MERP Maps and put them all into one big graphic.Most small regional maps i posted are fragments of that amalgation.Some of the coolest maps I've found are from the me-dem project www.me-dem.me.uk/, the most ugly maps were drawn by myself.--Haerangil (talk) 01:00, November 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * What about the maps such as the Central Tûr Betrak Detailed Map? Fargoniac (talk) 01:25, November 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * I can't say where that one is from. Somebody gave me a disc with tons of Stuff on it and I'm unable to say where everything came from.But it may be a scan from some old MERP module, possibly Greater Harad?--Haerangil (talk) 02:18, November 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * Could you upload the amalgamation to the wiki? Fargoniac (talk) 21:31, November 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * I think it's too big as a file.--Haerangil (talk) 17:28, November 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi there, I think I#ve found the maP YOU ASKED FOR on scribd :http://de.scribd.com/doc/58174895/MERP-Map-Northwestern-Middle-Earth-8000x5400 --Haerangil (talk) 18:17, December 17, 2013 (UTC)

Five Ringwraiths on Weathertop
Which five riders were on Weathertop. (Matthew Bowyer Fan (talk) 09:21, August 22, 2013 (UTC))
 * Well at last according to the TCG Cards it were Number 1,34,6 and 7.--Haerangil (talk) 05:00, August 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * So: Ulaire Minya, Ulaire Nelya, Ulaire Cantea, Ulaire Enquea and Ulaire Otsea ?(Matthew Bowyer Fan (talk) 18:05, August 23, 2013 (UTC))
 * Yes I think so, the Decipher TCG names the twiglight Wraiths that way and I think on the MERP Cover depicting the weathertop scerne there are also the Witch-King, Indur and Dwar.--Haerangil (talk) 21:46, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

Nazgûl
Hi Haerangil

Here's Quality Screencaps.

Link: http://screencapped.net/movie/lotr/displayimage.php?album=1&pid=58#top_display_media

Link: http://screencapped.net/movie/lotr/displayimage.php?album=1&pid=59#top_display_media

Link: http://screencapped.net/movie/lotr/displayimage.php?album=1&pid=60#top_display_media

(Matthew Bowyer Fan (talk) 16:53, September 21, 2013 (UTC))


 * Thank you, much appreciated. --Haerangil (talk) 04:57, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

Ringwraith
Which of the nine Nazgûl is this:

Link:http://screencapped.net/movie/lotr/displayimage.php?album=1&pid=2115#top_display_media

Link:http://screencapped.net/movie/lotr/displayimage.php?album=1&pid=2125#top_display_media

Link:http://screencapped.net/movie/lotr/displayimage.php?album=1&pid=2145#top_display_media

(Matthew Bowyer Fan (talk) 14:26, September 23, 2013 (UTC))


 * I think in unfinished tales Tolkien states that this was Khamûl... --Haerangil (talk) 17:41, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

Ringwraiths true undead appearance
Link:http://www.herr-der-ringe-film.de/v3/de/filme/galerie/kreaturen-monster/kreaturen-1_8.php

(Matthew Bowyer Fan (talk) 13:05, September 28, 2013 (UTC))
 * If I only knew which Nazgul is which ...--Haerangil (talk) 13:51, September 28, 2013 (UTC)

Uruk
How is name this Uruk? What happened to him?

Link:http://screencapped.net/movie/lotr/displayimage.php?album=3&pid=12349#top_display_media Link:http://screencapped.net/movie/lotr/thumbnails.php?album=3&page=59 (Matthew Bowyer Fan (talk) 16:44, September 29, 2013 (UTC))
 * Not sure.May be either Mauhur or Lugdush.--Haerangil (talk) 20:02, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

Uruk-Hai
And this is Uruk is Mauhur or Lugdush ?

Link:http://screencapped.net/movie/lotr/displayimage.php?album=4&pid=4811#top_display_media

Link:http://screencapped.net/movie/lotr/thumbnails.php?album=4&page=10

Link:http://screencapped.net/movie/lotr/displayimage.php?album=4&pid=4817#top_display_media

(Matthew Bowyer Fan (talk) 15:44, September 30, 2013 (UTC))
 * the Cardgame says it's Mauhúr.--Haerangil (talk) 14:36, October 2, 2013 (UTC)

Nazguls as kings of men
Hi Haerangil there is all nine nazguls as kings of men from Lord of the Rings Fellowship of the Ring.Photo is not from Film but from filming.

Link:https://picasaweb.google.com/102444060058418821034/LOTRMoviesCharactersActorsPrologueRingbearers#5506121910014535938

(Matthew Bowyer Fan (talk) 18:18, December 15, 2013 (UTC))


 * Thanks ! Do you also have pics of the seven Dwarven-Kings?--Haerangil (talk) 03:03, January 3, 2014 (UTC)

Hello!
Hello Haerangil,

I love what this wiki is attempting to do - organize both canon and non-canon (primarily non-canon) information regarding Tolkien's universe onto a single wiki.

Being well-versed in the canon of Tolkien, it's wonderful to discover non-canon explanations and/or expansions in areas where canon did not explain (i.e. - various characters, cultures, lands, races, etc.). It's all extremely fascinating.

As you've probably noticed, I've made various edits to the wiki (a lot of them regarding appearance - spacing, grammar, spelling, etc.). I have extensive experience in editing and administering two other wikis, and I'd like to help out in any way I can with regards to this wiki, too (that is, if you'd like assistance).

Hope all is well!

FMJ87 (talk) 01:23, January 3, 2014 (UTC)FMJ87


 * I wish to thank you for the many corrections and editions you made... you're welcome to join our work!--Haerangil (talk) 02:59, January 3, 2014 (UTC)

Question
Is this a roleplaying wiki?
 * To a large part -Yes! So far I guess it's 90% about Middle-Earth Roleplaying (MERP), but technically it's also open to other non-canon Publications about Middle-Earth like Video Games, Fan-Fiction or Table-top.--Haerangil (talk) 11:20, January 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh.
 * The Mordor Archer (talk) 21:29, January 25, 2014 (UTC)

Hi there!

Nice edit to my creation of information on Meachelburg. Your edit is far more consistent with the geopolitical creation of the area than my own. I named it according to the map created by ICE materials. I did want to point out that your tag name for the town, and the map name for the town, do not match.

All three names could be explained by linguistic shift, though a line stating such could explain to the reader the differences in the names.

GammaGM (talk) 23:51, February 2, 2014 (UTC)
 * I#m Sorry... The article already existed under the different tag...

Maethelburg was the correct term, I took the infos from the MERP Campaign -Atlas... Machelburg must be a misread.Mathlaburg is an alternbative form that appears in the Inland Sea module and Methelburg should be the correct spelling as Tolkien most often changed anglo-saxon Æ into E instead of ae (for example Elfwine instead of Aelfwine). I#m not sure which form to use... probably Maethelburg would be the best term as it is the form used in the ICE Books, although Methelburg would be more consistant with Tolkien's forms of Rohirric.--Haerangil (talk) 20:15, February 3, 2014 (UTC)

Seven Dwarf Lords
Sorry For Late Answer. I do not own this photos. All rights are of the copyright owner.

Link:https://picasaweb.google.com/102444060058418821034/LOTRMoviesCharactersActorsPrologueRingbearers#5506119617790686658 Link:https://picasaweb.google.com/102444060058418821034/LOTRMoviesCharactersActorsPrologueRingbearers#5506119704004545458 Link:https://picasaweb.google.com/102444060058418821034/LOTRMoviesCharactersActorsPrologueRingbearers#5506119718203880626 Link:https://picasaweb.google.com/102444060058418821034/LOTRMoviesCharactersActorsPrologueRingbearers#5506119807880833794 Link:https://picasaweb.google.com/102444060058418821034/LOTRMoviesCharactersActorsPrologueRingbearers#5506119829754782034 Link:https://picasaweb.google.com/102444060058418821034/LOTRMoviesCharactersActorsPrologueRingbearers#5506119844649225874 Link:https://picasaweb.google.com/102444060058418821034/LOTRMoviesCharactersActorsPrologueRingbearers#5506119849289687298 Link:https://picasaweb.google.com/102444060058418821034/LOTRMoviesCharactersActorsPrologueRingbearers#5506119893998028690 (Matthew Bowyer Fan (talk) 19:38, February 22, 2014 (UTC))
 * Thank you! too bad there are no better pictures of Malin, Darsha and Riimukäsi...--Haerangil (talk) 17:16, May 9, 2014 (UTC)

Question on maps
Hi There!

Thx for having created this wonderful wiki, which I use everyday.

I have a question. In the webpage of the High-Pass (http://merp.wikia.com/wiki/High-Pass) I see two images. The second one comes from the ICE module, "The Goblin Gate". But the first one? I recognize the most recent ICE style of fonts, but do not identify as coming from any module (and I have all of them!).

Thank you.

---

Jjjustel
 * I'm sorry but I can't give sources for many of my pics, because they're from a collection somebody gave me on an old CD and I don't know where he has them from.I know that many are from old MERP books and a few are probably from Rolemaster books.The Map you aks about might be from a Tolkien/ME Quest Book I guess, but I#m not sure about it.--Haerangil (talk) 11:30, May 9, 2014 (UTC)

Forums
Hey Haerangil, is there a forum website that answers questions about ICE/MERP characters? Also have you found anything else on Agonar's staff? That is all I need besides who bore the Amulet of True Channels. Wasn't it that Hermit in the Utter South who had a construct working for him? Moran half valar (talk) 17:46, May 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry I don't know.... but of course you could try at merp.com or at the fanmodules yahoo-Group.--Haerangil (talk) 18:06, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

Fourth Age Factions
Hey Haerangil, I would be lying if I stated that I knew a lot about the Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, and Seventh ages. I don't have those books apparently--however, I am comfortable with the other faction being like an Evil Spartan faction, I think that fits! Also, Alatar and Pallando's factions should be flushed out in the Fourth Age, and Durin VII should have a big force too, along with Gimli's kingdom perhaps... Moran half valar (talk) 17:48, July 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * The mentioned factions are from the FO 1000 scenario, a long time after Gimli's Kingdom and probably after Durin VII and Alarar & Pallando.--Haerangil (talk) 09:22, July 28, 2014 (UTC)

A Question
Are there any books/resources on MERP languages still being published?

Fargoniac (talk) 02:04, December 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi there! No, all official MERP Publications have been out of print for decades, however there's a small but quite dedicated fan community who kep on working on exploring Middle-Earth and much of their work is based on MERP.I`ve already added a few of the newer developements under languages, and I had to do quite some retcon work.For example check out Fanmodules on Yahoo, Lindefirion, Guild Companion, Other Minds or Hall of Fire on the web.Some work has also been published on websites as such as scribd...--Haerangil (talk) 14:43, December 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * Which fan-works specifically cover languages?Fargoniac (talk) 21:57, December 18, 2014 (UTC)

I As far as I know Lindefirion has an extended Page about Languages and Cultures and the Fan Modules Group has also published some documents about Language. A great article about Nandorin, including a broad wordlist and guidelines to grammer was published by the Other Hands Magazine Issue #28.--Haerangil (talk) 11:02, December 19, 2014 (UTC)

Edits
Hi! Thanks for the welcome! I'm glad to be here! I hope you like the edits I make! SuperGrantZilla (talk) 23:28, January 1, 2015 (UTC)

So, what did you think of the edit for the Easterling language page so far?SuperGrantZilla (talk) 23:35, January 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * They're a welcome contribution.--Haerangil (talk) 11:34, January 2, 2015 (UTC)


 * I hope some of my edits weren't too much of a bother! I got a little enthusiastic and willing to show off! SuperGrantZilla (talk) 07:34, January 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * Not at all. So far I felt that the language section of this Wiki was a bit underrepresentated in contrast to scenarios, Places or Characters.--Haerangil (talk) 09:56, January 3, 2015 (UTC)

Hi! could you tell me what is the place were the Ruler of Khand lives?
 * Good Question. The BfME mentions a "Vangaris" as King of Khand, but according to their scenario there were several Kings, not just one.Semewhere they also mention a Keiseimu, though it's not sure if He's a King.Fanfic mentions a Yumruk and an Arkish, and an Ûvatha IX who was supposedly murdered by Yumruk.Arkish was supposed to have lived around 2980 TA, Yumruk was a vassal of Margoz of Rhun about the time of the WoTR, ... I guess there were several Kings and some internal strife that involved Vangaris, Yumruk and Uvatha IX... The old Capital was Ammu Khand, later it was Laorki... but that was in the 16th century... City names in khand might have changed after one and a half century... At least that Vanragis rules from a capital called ankruz, but it might have been a lesser regional capital of Surak-Khand too...--Haerangil (talk) 20:05, January 10, 2015 (UTC)

Haerangil, I have a question... that Orcs and Uruks from the battle of pelennor fields (Lufthak, Gartor, Argdush and the other ones) are fanom? Also the Moria Goblins called Drisnak, Nushdrak, Huzghash, Gharsh and the others are fanom? Because a user called Spenpiano from Lord of the Rings Wiki thought that they were real and created those pages there... I want to know if they are fanom or are from some game.
 * Well, Drisnak, Gharsh, Yuithrech, Grimbosh, Gazmog etc. are from Interplay's Lord of The Rings Game I&II, Luftak, Gartor and Argdush are minor Captains from LOTR SBG Scenarios, some other Characters are from LOTRO, Borgthaur, Flurg and Gurbash are Quest Game, Euog, Baugur and Doeth are MECCG and Grishlug,Ugnar, Mog, Lughur, and Radluk are Lotr RPG. So they are all non-canon but not Fanon per se.The Only fanon characters I added were Urzog, Bolingul, Guritz, Dror, Gordmul, Gorkin, Ogslap and Maul, though i didn't create them... they are from fanfic I´ve found on the WEB or MODS.I see it's important to add references for all characters to identify where they are from. I'm working on that but it'll take some time concerning the sheer mass of Characters this Wiki already covers.-Haerangil (talk) 06:04, February 13, 2015 (UTC)

''Mae govannen mellon! Ni Elaran, end Lymrandir estant. Ni "Tolkienor" 'adron ah ieston echadi delias talven or MERP. ''"Well met friend! I'm Star-King, also called Shadow-Pilgrim. I'm a fellow Tolkienist and I wish to shape a game based on MERP."

I was wondering if I could somehow contact you for your opinion on it. I'm trying to combine The New Shadow and Dagor Dagorath for a forum boards game with FRP elements. It's quite a big project for me. I hope you can see this.

Novaer! "Farewell!" Lymrandir (talk) 01:53, April 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, why not... I´ve quit Roleplaying quite some years ago and now i`m more dedicated to preserve the old ICE/MERP Backgrounds and trying to keep some kind of continuity with the other Versions of ME. But why not, if i find time...--Haerangil (talk) 13:53, April 1, 2015 (UTC)

Great! Alright then, is there a way that I can contact you without using this confusing page? We can use emails if you would prefer? I will include a link to my tumblr account for both of our anonymities' sake (and don't worry, I'm not one of those strange gif lovers). As far as I know, its "ask system" allows anyone to write to the blog owner without registration. You can click here.

Happy Easter
Hope you are enjoying your time Haerangil. Take it easy and thanks for the continuing edits over the years!

Sincerely,

Moran half valar (talk) 20:36, April 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks alot! Same to you, Regards H. --Haerangil (talk) 12:15, April 6, 2015 (UTC)

Senator Kratti, Prince Ferris of Hathor, & Unknown individual raised by a Wizard
Hey Haerangil, do you have any information about the following characters listed above? Would you be opposed to writing their hypothetical stats and items? Thanks and let me know if you are against this, if they are listed in any books, please let me know. Thanks. Moran half valar (talk) 03:39, April 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * I just found those chars on the web... probably they're from some fanfic or forum RPG game.Don't have any more info than what i found on

http://www.geocities.ws/ldg5066/index-2.html They seemingly weren't too serious... taking pics of brad pitt for Prince Ferris and calling the Hathorians "cool surfer Boys".But maybe inspiring though.--Haerangil (talk) 12:22, April 15, 2015 (UTC)